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Consensual Non-Consent

As usual I was searching for something else when I ran across this old post by Katharine Hawks:

This is definately not what I’m thinking about when I hear the phrase “consensual nonconsent.” What you’re describing sounds more like *roleplaying* nonconsent, rather than entering a scene in which non-consent isn’t going to get a bottom out of hir predicament.

CNC typically means, IMX, that consent is given to have a scene; but it’s understood that consent is not needed to continue the scene. I’ve certainly seen and participated in no-out scenes which involved no resistance, “taking”, or forcing; though of course, hopefully there is going to be some of that :)

To me, a no-out scene can happen with a very obedient bottom. The bottom may submit to acts which are painful – psychological and/or physically – past the point of immediate “fun.” Sometimes this can be what some folks call a “breaking scene.” Let’s say a bottom wants to be whipped past the point of hir mental endurance, until sie is stripped of self-protection, barriers, and control. Sie knows that sie will beg hir top to stop, to release hir, and so on. There may be no forcing or resistance/fighting — but there will be verbal withdrawals of consent. But since the goal of a scene like this is to get *past* that point (i.e., to enter the realm of experience that a person cannot consent to expose themselves to; the experience can only be had if another takes them past that boundary.)

Of course, the no-out scenes that involve lots of resistance and taking-down are delicious and fun. But typically the goals are similar to what I describe above — a person who wants to be taken past their own internal boundares — way beyond the edge of *immediate* fun — for other pleasures and rewards that may not be felt until well after the scene is over. So the bottom may have the freedom to fight, to resist, to get the adrenalin going, etc., but because the goal of the scene is “beyond fun”, it’ll eventually enter a point where the resistance and the unwillingness is very real.

Found in this thread: When did BDSM begin?

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